tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5108550303571033600.post7223983391406414924..comments2023-10-31T14:44:05.872+00:00Comments on Not the same stream: Not a real Church?Paul Bagshawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17694279608748668806noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5108550303571033600.post-20177587254361952942010-12-14T16:07:17.535+00:002010-12-14T16:07:17.535+00:00Originally applied to Puritans, I think it can be ...Originally applied to Puritans, I think it can be pointed back towards us now:<br /><br />Again it may be justly feared whether our English nobility, when the matter comes in trial, would contentedly suffer themselves to be always at the call, and to stand to the sentence of a number of mean persons assisted with the presence of their poor teacher, a man (as sometimes it happeneth) though better able to speak, yet little or no whit apter to judge than the rest: from whom, be heir dealings never so absurd, (unless it be by way of a complaint to a synod,) no appeal may be made to any one of a higher power.... Hooker, Laws, Preface VIII.2.Richardhttp://holyisle.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5108550303571033600.post-56545034225314332962010-12-05T05:07:20.299+00:002010-12-05T05:07:20.299+00:00What arrogance, indeed, from Newman and what nonse...What arrogance, indeed, from Newman and what nonsense to rest his authority on the fantastical claim of apostolic descent. I think less of the man after reading his words here. And then when Newman went over to Rome, he had to submit to re-ordination, thus admitting that the orders he'd claimed with such pride were as nothing. <br /><br />Back in February, I wrote about the offer by the Methodists, which I thought was quite generous and self-sacrificing, and I recall how little attention it received.June Butlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723016934182800437noreply@blogger.com