tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5108550303571033600.post4266657236553169055..comments2023-10-31T14:44:05.872+00:00Comments on Not the same stream: The coup has already occurredPaul Bagshawhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17694279608748668806noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5108550303571033600.post-33591808781386500632010-02-09T15:23:31.901+00:002010-02-09T15:23:31.901+00:00Dear Paul,
My list of Instruments is rather arbit...Dear Paul,<br /><br />My list of Instruments is rather arbitrary in terms of political power I must admit. However, like all historical precedents that of the former problems with the Church of South India doesn't tell us much in this case except that in the words of Mother Julian of Norwich 'all shall be well'.<br /><br />The ANCA's agenda is not benign like that of the old CSI it is schismatic as it seeks to usurp the position of the Episcopal Church.<br /><br />I think it will fragment into its constituent parts (including those for and against the ordination of women) before any formal recognition is given to it<br /><br />In my opinion the problem lies with weak and incoherent leadership in Canterbury. RW has sold his soul to preserve unity as a result he has lost his natural liberal constituency and failed to convince the conservatives. Also his type of theology makes a virtue out of undeserved suffering of which he is getting plenty at the moment. <br /><br />We need a new ABC - but who?penwatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04363809450765158672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5108550303571033600.post-78174832898151765402010-02-08T08:41:13.643+00:002010-02-08T08:41:13.643+00:00Penwatch,
I guess order of importance depends on ...Penwatch,<br /><br />I guess order of importance depends on the purpose - though, for any pupose, law is the least important internationally because all jurisdictions are Provincial or smaller.<br /><br />There is precedent for a province recognising ACNA. The Church of South India was not recognised by the Communion when it was formed. South Africa recognised it first and then others followed. I guess the same would happen with ACNA.<br /><br />The position now is that some priests and bishops (who happen to be women) are not recognised in other parts of the communion. Though this does not affect (at least, not too much) institutional relationships.Paul Bagshawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17694279608748668806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5108550303571033600.post-88576041582657369372010-02-07T21:39:09.209+00:002010-02-07T21:39:09.209+00:00Interesting analysis and probably correct.
I'...Interesting analysis and probably correct.<br /><br />I'd say six Instruments now, in order of importance:<br /><br />Joint Standing Committee<br />The Archbishop of Canterbury<br />The Anglican Consultative Council<br />The Primates<br />The Lambeth Conferences<br />The Canons (ius commune)<br /><br />And on a related matter, if by any chance the General Synod of the Church of England choses to recognise the ACNA, anything goes, Third Province, GAFCON etc, etc. Then where will the Instruments be?penwatchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04363809450765158672noreply@blogger.com